2012: Winners, Losers and Of Uncertain Regard.

by Dec 4, 2011Annual Outlook35 comments

This would have been an entry posted right at the END of my series on 2012 but on Facebook there were a number of questions that were directed at the subject matter of the impact of annual forecasts so I decided I would do this first because it ultimately is more relevant to the Individual than a broad far-ranging forecast that relates to the global picture. I must admit, I was surprised at the number of people who were interested to know about global events (fixation on natural disasters is frankly just not something I really understand) on the basis that the occurrence of political change happening somewhere in the world would somehow have a trickle down effect on them. The AVERAGE person, and by this I mean the average wage earner or employee, is affected by global events in the same way the average person is affected by the latest fashion trends on display during New York Fashion Week or in haute couture.  In essence, this season’s colour or look is only likely to affect the average fashion buyer in something like 2-3 years, when the haute makes its way to the hoi polloi. And so in the same vein, economic and global events honestly take in my unscientific opinion, 2-3 years to really trickle down to affect the average person. If one looks at the financial crisis of 2008, it originally began in 2007 but it has taken it about 2-3 years to really hit – forecasts for a decline and slowdown in various economies has only really become evident in 2011 and in light of GDP growth predictions for developed economies in 2012.

If one is to believe the thinking that runs in the financial world holds true generally everywhere as well (see this article on how 0.1% of the investors in the financial industry profit whilst 99.9% fail), world events have an actual impact 1% of the population in any real terms.

So the average person in reality, is not as affected by the global turn of events. The average wage earning or self-employed person does not own enough equity in the stock market for advance knowledge of economic events to truly influence the extent of their wealth. The average wage earning or self-employed person does not command a sufficient slice of the economy or political power for the global turn of events to significant change the outcome of their actions, one way or another.

What matters more in essence is how the YEAR affects YOU rather than how the year affects the economy, the political scene and the world at large. If YOU are having a lousy year, the world economy would be breaking records everywhere and it wouldn’t make a difference to YOU. It would still be a BAD year. So with that in mind, onward with the discussion of 2012’s Winners, Losers and those who are gifted with the wonderfully ambiguous accolade of ‘Uncertain Regard’.

Important disclaimer: generic BaZi forecasts are never as accurate as an actual forecast predicated on your full BaZi including Luck Pillars. These forecasts are general in the sense that they look at the effect of the Branch/Stem of the Year compared to certain Branches or certain Day Masters. A general forecast is never useful in my view, which is why I have tried to make my ‘general’ forecast less general.

WINNERS

As you will recall from last year’s post of the same nature (2011: Winners, Losers and of Uncertain Regard), the easiest way to determine the year’s winners is to see who is in combination with the Grand Duke or the Tai Sui of the year. In this case, the Tai Sui is the Dragon 辰  accordingly those born in the Animal Years that Combine with the Dragon will prima facie start the year on an advantaged footing. I say prima facie because this naturally is subject to the assumption that there are no interactions of a negative nature with the Dragon in the rest of the chart.

Priority advantage of course will go to the animal years that form part of the Water Frame Combination with the Dragon vide the 申 子 辰 Combination, with those born in the 酉 year coming in  second. As such, if you are born in a Monkey or Rat or Rooster year, the year will bring some positive outcomes, given the combination with the Grand Duke. The Big Kahuna is on your side in 2012.

Now, there are zillions of people born in the Monkey, Rat and Rooster years – it can’t be good for all of them equally. So, the next qualifying requirement in order to be classified as a ‘Winner’ for 2012 is having WATER as one of your Favourable Elements or Useful God. This is because 2012 as a pillar represents strong Water and the Three Harmony Combination (which trumps the middling Six Combo of 酉 辰 Rooster-Dragon) produces Water.

Sidenote: those born in the Rooster year would be coming off a uncomfortable year from Xin Mao 2011 and as such, 2012 should definitely see some marked improvement. However, Rooster years will not have the same advantage compared to the Monkey and Rat years because the nature of the combination involving Monkey and Rat is somewhat superior to that of Rooster-Dragon.

Day Masters which are able to naturally make use of Water, specifically Ren Water, will likely be advantaged in 2012. Xin Metal likes Ren Water and so would be somewhat advantaged this year as it will be their opportunity to shine, shine, shine. Arguably, this would be the case even if Ren Water is already strong in the chart as Xin Metal can only shine more! (of course, if there are unfavourable features in the chart which go against the Dragon then deduct points accordingly). Wu Earth also is likely to have a good year since 2012 will be a strong Wealth year for Wu Earth. Ji Earth however may not be able to lay claim to the same advantage because Ji Earth does not control Ren Water as well as Wu Earth does. Ding Fire also should have a good year as it is a strong Direct Officer year and there are strong possibilities for a promotion or career advancement in 2012, assuming none of the negative Earthly Branches are in play. Weak Water Day Masters will have the benefit of a favourable Rob Wealth/Friend Star this year and will also benefit from 2012.

LOSERS

Naturally, all animal years that do not get along with the Grand Duke of the year, which is the Dragon, will de facto fall within the Losers category, in the absence of extenuating circumstances.

First up, those born in the year of the Dragon.

Brief educational aside: Conventional orthodox Chinese Astrology (read, the kind that your fourth aunt sixth removed or the family old foggie busybody – read, people who know nothing about real astrology most of the time) espouses the view that a person born in the year that is the same as the Grand Duke is Offending the Grand Duke. As such, it is common for those who practice Buddhism to wander on to the temple and perform a ceremony that involves ‘adding’ a year to one’s birth year, thereby duping the Grand Duke as such. So if you were born in the year of the Dragon, you would magically by virtue of this ceremony, become a Rabbit. THIS IS A PURELY RELIGIOUS/SPIRITUAL practice – the Grand Duke is not stupid and is not that easily duped. You can wear a Rabbit’s clothes but its rather hard to hide the Dragon’s claws. Secondly and of greater significance, only four animals are actually capable of Offending the Grand Duke and they are the four Earthly Branches that form part of the Self-Punishment group of Earthly Branches: Horse 午, Rooster 酉, Dragon 辰 and Pig 亥. All other animals DO NOT actually offend the Grand Duke.

Dragons will have the torment of a Self-Punishment in 2012. Now, in the grand scheme of things, a Self-Punishment is really not that terrible. It simply denotes engaging in an activity that you know isn’t progressive or advantageous but somehow not quite being able to avoid doing it. I call it the Cheesecake problem – you go on diet but somehow keep on eating Cheesecake. In any case, Self Punishment often manifests itself as this thing called mindf**k – so really its mindgames rather than anything else. But nonetheless, it is enough to warrant a problem for Dragons in 2012.

The wake-up call for 2012 for Dragons will most likely become evident in January 2012, as we enter into the Ox month. Rabbit month will also pose challenges so Dragons should expect a tough start to the year. However, for most Dragons, 2011 would have brought some problems because of the negative interaction between the Dragon and Rabbit and so 2012 will probably involve some of the problems that have arisen in 2011 which were unresolved.

Other animals that don’t get along with the Dragon are the Dog 戌 (Clash), Rabbit 卯 (Harm) and Ox 丑 (Destruction). As such, those born in these animal years de facto fall into the Loser category for 2012, in the absence of extenuating circumstances which render the chart in the Uncertain Regard category. Now, just because you don’t have a Dog, Rabbit or Ox in your BaZi chart, doesn’t mean that you’ll escape unscathed. Don’t forget to check your 10 year Luck Pillar. Granted, if the 10 year Luck Pillar is negatively affected but the main BaZi chart is not, this is not as bad. But seeing as the Luck Pillar dictates the overall outcomes during a particular period of time, anything that shakes the Luck Pillar is not a good thing.

The Inferred Negative of 2012 – the Three Harmony Combination will silently push out the Rat 子 in 2012 in the month of Monkey 申 – in such an instance, there is a possible inferred negative outcome (or Stealth Problem) for individuals who have Goat in their chart, since Rat-Goat is a negative interaction of a Harm. And since the Goat and the Dog (one of the problem trouble makers in 2012) form a Bullying Punishment which is further exacerbated by the Dragon’s arrival in clashing the Dog, those born in the year of the Goat or who have the Goat Branch in their chart may need to be a wee bit cautious in 2012.

In terms of the individual Day Masters, strong Water Day Masters, be it Gui or Ren, will have a less than favourable year because of the presence of an unneeded Rob Wealth/Friend Star.

UNCERTAIN REGARD

Uncertain regard essentially is where charts which have a mixture of the good and the bad fall within. If your chart falls within uncertain regard, then more than ever, the choices and actions that you make and take, will probably make a lot of difference, along with the 10 year Luck Pillar.
Charts that will fall within uncertain regard as those with the following features:
– No Combination with the year in ANY of the Earthly Branches or in the 10 year Luck Pillar.
– No negative interaction with the year in ANY of the Earthly Branches or in the 10 year Luck Pillar but no positive interaction either.
– Some Combination but also some negative interactions. So for example, your chart contains Ox and Monkey, or Rat and Dog.
Specifically of uncertain regard will be Bing Fire in 2012. Bing and Ren of course is a Clash and so in principle this indicates an unfavorable outcome, especially as the Officer Star is involved. However, Bing somewhat thrives on Ren and so if the cards are played right, Bing could see positive outcomes in the career (or marriage, if it is a Bing Fire female) department. Bing Xu however will have a tough year, due to the Fan Yin brought about by the year.

35 Comments

  1. Bingo

    What if its a Strong Bing/Wu Fire MALe chart? what happens then? The outcome is bad?

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  2. calvin

    I like the way you explained. You make all sounds logical.

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  3. wkng83

    If Bing is your Useful God and on stem, there is some cause for concern in 2012 Dragon year. If Bing is your negative god, then some reprieve can be expected.

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    • Baziqueen

      @ wkng83 – actually, if Bing is the useful god and ONLY appears on stem, the person won’t have to have waited to 2012 for the problem to arise.

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    • wkng83

      Ya, the discomfort continues from this year but 2012 holds a merciless interaction layer.

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      • Baziqueen

        I would love to know what “merciless interaction layer” means. Sounds like lawyer doublespeak for nothing.

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        • Bingo

          hey haven’t answer my question though 🙁

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          • Baziqueen

            Answer is in the article.

          • Bingo

            Baziqueen,

            I’m not that good at reading between the lines….spare me this time? 😐

            What if its a Strong Bing/Wu Fire MALe chart? what happens then? The outcome is bad?

          • Baziqueen

            There’s no reading between the lines lah Bingo – this post is not meant to address everyone’s astrological outlook – it’s a general outlook as the disclaimer makes clear. Also, it is my policy not to comment on individual’s charts on my blog.

        • wkng83

          Haha, legal stuff and metaphysics? Where is the link. Inception of the concept is the key. Merciless is like a harsh cruel father but still provides life’s basic needs. Non-merciless is the unconditional mother’s love some of us have to the privilege to have. Semantics is in everywhere including Bazi e.g Void, Emptiness, Kong Wang, 地空, 天空. 空间 etc.

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          • Baziqueen

            Well I’m sure someone out there understands what you have written. I don’t profess to have the semantic genius to comprehend what you have written.

  4. Kitsoune

    Hi BaziQueen!
    Supposedly Rooster will benefit from next year in some way, like indicated in your article, what if it’s void? What it will mean in terms of practical events? Same goes for any combinations like Monkeys, Rats – what if they are void in person’s chart?

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    • Baziqueen

      I assume by VOID you mean ‘Death and Emptiness’ – Combination relieves Emptiness. if it’s void, then you are back to square one so the combination doesn’t benefit you in any way, but may resolve existing problems. BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION. One of the things that people don’t seem to understand is that it’s not possible to give a specific answer to a general circumstance. That is why the article has that huge disclaimer at the start.

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      • Kitsoune

        So basically it’s like having earth branch nominally, but it means nothing for the chart – except for its open Heaven Stem? I know that no specific stuff can be told in this regard. So just wanted some general information.

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        • Baziqueen

          General information about Death and Emptiness aka Void? Basically, Void is relieved by Emptiness. So if you have an Emptiness that is Rooster, then Dragon combines to relieve the emptiness. So the Void then is no longer a Void for the period of one year. So whatever benefits the Star may have return so to speak, but that assumes that the Star is originally beneficial or useful or needed.

          Again, general information is really an ambiguous term – what is general? I only can know what is general if I know what you already know which isn’t obvious clearly in a comment.

          I won’t go so far as to say it means nothing to the chart BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON THE CHART. (which at this point, is being discussed from the ultra micro perspective of ONE BRANCH). People get caught up in the obsession with the Earthly Branches that they never seem to bother with the Day Master. The Day Master is where it’s at – always and forever the Day Master and the 10 Gods. Start your inquiry from there.

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          • Kitsoune

            Thanks BaziQueen! I got it better about emptiness or “Kong Wang”. It’s a complex topic probably and I know that my chart cannot be analyzed here. Nevertheless thanks for clarification. So if God in Heavenly stem is favorable and needed – then emptiness will be cancelled during Dragon, which means it will be full Rooster then with all Hidden stems appearing and revealed, as I understood.
            Also concerning the Day Master – I wonder if it is weak – no self-element found elsewhere in the chart, it means your core is something that is not you? Then other dominant elements in the chart “dictate”, determine the most of your behaviour, thinking? Sometimes when thinking about weak DM as stated somewhere by Joey Yap makes me question importance of DMs that are weak. It’s like they are “pushed” by other elements in the chart…I mean DM then serves only as a starting point for analysis and time perspective, not characteristics of an individual?

          • Baziqueen

            “So if God in Heavenly stem is favorable and needed – then emptiness will be cancelled during Dragon, which means it will be full Rooster then with all Hidden stems appearing and revealed, as I understood” – this frankly makes no sense to me. Heavenly Stem does not connect with the Emptiness that occurs in the Branch. So I am not sure what you are trying to say but no, the Heavenly Stem doesn’t come into the picture with Emptiness – it is the Branch that maters. “I mean DM then serves only as a starting point for analysis and time perspective, not characteristics of an individual?” = DM is the key starting point for individual characteristics combined with the rest of the elements. No self element in the chart does not necessarily mean the element is weak – you could be born in a supportive month ie: Ren/Gui born in Rooster.

  5. Kitsoune

    Baziqueen, sorry for not expressing my thoughts right – but I understood the point about Emptiness.Thanks again.So the clash doesn’t happen with empty branch, if it would be empty Dog the Dragon wouldn’t clash it?

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    • Baziqueen

      How convenient if it didn’t! – unfortunately no, that is not how Emptiness works.

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      • Kitsoune

        So how it would be then?
        if Earthly Branch is empty in the
        chart (e.g. Dog) and Clashing
        Earthly branch comes as a year
        (e.g.Dragon2012 ) , what happens
        to the Dog,or how this
        clash affects the emptiness in
        Dog?

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        • Baziqueen

          This is nitpicking you know. And in any case, all depends on what Dog/Dragon means to you, which essentially is Wu Earth.

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  6. Fey

    What if person is Goat, Ox, Dog, Monkey…in dragon year? Does this complete penalty? Wondering because it is my chart.

    Xin wei (yr)
    xin chou (month)
    wu xu (day)
    geng shen (hr)

    I do not even know how these elements interact normal non the less a chaotic sounding year like dragon 2012

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  7. Kriztel

    So I m born on jia horse hour, bing rat day, gui pig month, gui ox year, does it mean My problem arise due to self clash even in good or bad year? Any remedy?

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  8. Jinni

    What is a “stealth problem” (Rat & Goat/silent push)? I read it as a confusion harm; but what do you mean by stealth?

    How serious is a harm caused by the silent push compared to one that’s originally in a chart, or found annually, and/or LP?

    Who wins in the harm if earth is prominent by the season(summer)?

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    • Baziqueen

      A harm is already a pretty negative situation. It seems to be rather pointless to compare ‘how bad’ if the conclusion is already ‘bad’ to begin with.

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  9. daniel

    Hi Baziqueen,

    “Heavenly Stem does not connect with the Emptiness that occurs in the Branch”
    Is this also the heavenly stem that is in the pillar (HS+EB)
    that is void (kong wang)? What happens to the strength (qi) of the heavenly stem that sits on an empty branch?

    Regards

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    • admin

      I don’t think the strength of the Stem is affected by the Emptiness that occurs in a Branch otherwise, you’d have to discount the impact of every single element in the chart if the emptiness happens to be within the Month Branch, since that controls the entire chart. I would say my view (and this is strictly my personal opinion only, I would not profess it to be THE opinion) is that I would be more interested in the actual 10 God that is in emptiness in the Branch than be worried about the Stem that sits on it.

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      • daniel

        Hi,

        I never seen it this way, that is, that if month branch(climate right?) is void the rest of the chart elements are effected as well. I always thought that only the pillar is effected. This effect does externally affects the rest of the elements due to interactions, i think.
        Some classics translated as “…(ten god) sit on kong wang” so I presumed the heavenly stem is affected as well. Off course, there are many schools of thought. As far I know, the HS may be weakened in strength(qi) but it is the branch that have that specific effect of kong wang. I wondering, is your opinion based on your experience in analyzing charts or just based on logic?

        ps: discussion is going on kong wang at fivearts.net

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        • admin

          Well, it is just a natural extension of the logic – if you are going to argue that the Stem seated on the Branch is negatively affected by the Emptiness in the Branch, then in theory, if the particular Branch in Emptiness happens to be the month branch, which controls in many ways, the fundamental strength of all of the five elements, logically all the Stems including the DM would be affected to and I doubt that was the intention of how D&E is supposed to be interpreted. It would not be wrong to say that you would look at the D&E’s effect in a pillar context as you have indicated but i wouldn’t put it as the be all and end all. My answer is most certainly based on LOGIC because BaZi cannot be illogical based on its own theories. In terms of analysing charts, I am strictly a professional consultant in my approach, so I am focused on whether or not a particular interpretation is relevant to the client and focused on answering questions and finding solutions. I don’t obsess with the technical.

          My view as I have indicated is that I pay more attention to the impact on the particular 10 Gods within the Branch with due consideration for the Palaces as well.

          On another note though, i frequently get a lot of questions about D&E and I really do not understand people’s obsession with this. Why is it given this extraordinary level of importance? Sure it has its part to play and it does impact on an interpretation of a given 10 Gods but that is but just ONE factor to take into account surely?

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  10. jinni

    @Baziqueen thank you for answering my question. Lol.

    Do all silent pushes come up with Di Wang stage branch? Ie: Pure Qi? Or does it not have a HS just a branch? What is the HS of a silent push?

    Also is there a silent push if you already have the missing branch present in your chart? Or LP? I know it’s all four cardinals?

    I have two Wei’s in my chart, and this month is Fu Yin to my DM. I also have zi rat branch in my chart, or I have a static harm in my chart two I think. Looks pretty negative, you’re right!

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    • admin

      Silent Push is ONLY Cardinal.

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      • BBC

        In the forecast for the year of the snake, you mention an indirect partial three harmony combination that pushes out a pig, if you have sheep and rabbit. How different is this one from the silent push with the cardinal?

        ” you don’t have a Pig but you have a partial Three Harmony combination of the Goat 未 and the Rabbit 卯 you indirectly have a Pig-Snake Clash problem as
        well, so those with Goat and Rabbit (TOGETHER) should be cautious in 2013.”

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        • BBC

          What are the conditions for say, born year of the monkey and annual month of dragon in 2014? Is there automatically a silent push of rat?

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        • admin

          There is no mention of PUSH in my post. Read carefully.

          Reply

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